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Old 08-12-2008, 00:11
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Here is a very unusual Supermodified from 1979 built by Ken Reece.

It has 4 wheels per the rules, but 3 of them are on the right side and only 1 on the left. It was banned from racing at Oswego Speedway in NY before it got a chance to race. The car was tested by NASCAR star Tim Richmond at Sandusky, Ohio. It performed well enough in testing that the officials got nervous and banned it after previously indicating it would be allowed to run. The car owner, Ken Reece, got mad after he spent all the cash building it and cut it up.

The single wheel on the left side and the center wheel on the right side were the drive wheels. The front and rear wheels on the right side were used for steering, but turned opposite each other.

Supermodifieds are the fastest and wildest short track oval cars and for a period of time there were virtually no rules limiting what could be raced. They have 500 c.i. aluminum injected big blocks and no tire rules. They have beeen built in the past with front engines, rear engines, off set side engines and all wheel drive variations.








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Old 08-12-2008, 19:15
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haha wel een uitvinding...
als je alleen maar linkse bochten maakt kan je het ook makkelijk doen..
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Old 18-12-2008, 13:13
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haha wel een uitvinding...
als je alleen maar linkse bochten maakt kan je het ook makkelijk doen..



ik denk juist dat het beter is om alleen maar rechtse bochten te maken... bocht naar links dan gaat de linker kant omhoog, en juist links heeft deze weinig tegengewicht...


foto 1: lekker die brandplekjes op je elleboog en steenslag op je gezicht. jamjam.

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Old 18-12-2008, 13:23
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Ik denk dat het de bedoeling is om zoveel mogelijk gewicht op rubber te plaatsen, en zo zoveel mogelijk grip te creeeren. Ik kies dus toch voor bovenstaande meneer en niet voor 1982KameiX1 deze keer
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Old 18-12-2008, 13:51
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maar het meeste gewicht zit in dit geval op het "single" wiel. (nl. het motorblok) of begrijp ik je nu verkeerd?


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op foto 2: staat een racetrack met een linkse bocht. en aangenomen dat ze wel weten waar ze mee bezig zijn ga ik nu maar even mijn mond houden....

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Old 18-12-2008, 14:02
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Gaaf, dit zijn ontwikkelingen die vaak het alternatieve denken in gang zetten om achter de huidige standaard een vraagteken te zetten. Dit zijn dingen die de autosport radicaal zou kunnen veranderen.
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Als je door een links bocht rijd komt het gewicht door de middelpunt-uitvliedende kracht naar buiten en dus op de kant met de 3 wielen.

Een motorrijder gaat toch ook naar de binnenkant van de bocht liggen? De wielen dragen dan al het gewicht, en die zitten aan de buitenzijde.

Als je met skiën een bocht naar links maakt, druk je je rechter ski wat dieper in de sneeuw, die draagt dan ook het meeste gewicht.


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Old 18-12-2008, 14:17
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Overigens was er in het verleden een formule 1 auto die met rubberen skirts werkte. (aan de buitenste zijden onderkant) Deze gleden over de grond (konden dus in en uit de bodemplaat glijden) en zo kon er een vacuüm onder de auto worden gecreëerd.

Meer downforce als met de grootste spoilers. Omdat de wegligging van deze wagen zo geweldig goed was, is de techniek verboden... De anderen waren kansloos in bochten namelijk.
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@lexo:
2de post, ik dacht dat Lotus dat bedacht heeft, met die skirts, erg leuke techniek.
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Dat kan zomaar, weet het niet precies meer..
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link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrell_P34


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The six-wheeled Tyrrell P34 looked like the mutant offspring of an F1 car mated with a truck.
But nonetheless this freak of a car served the team for two seasons and even won a Grand Prix.
With regular LATWOT writer Stuart Milne away, Trackside’s Keith Collantine has stepped in to pick one of his all-time favourite racing cars.
The F1 hacks assembled for the launch of the 1976 Tyrrell might have thought they’d seen it all before.
But when the covers were pulled back on a racing car with six wheels there was stunned silence. Renowned scribe Denis Jenkinson muttered, “I think I’d better go out and come back in again.”
Formula 1 has always been about finding the unfair advantage over your rivals - the stroke of technical genius that puts your team a quantum leap ahead and renders your rivals obsolete.
In 1976, British team boss Ken Tyrrell and designer Derek Gardner dreamt up the revolutionary idea of using four small wheels to steer the car rather than two large and aerodynamically inefficient ones.
It was a sound idea on paper – but it produced an ugly duckling of a car.
The Tyrrell team had won three championships with Jackie Stewart just three years earlier. But new driver Jody Scheckter complained about the P34’s strange handling.

Even when he won the Swedish Grand Prix at Anderstorp with it he still wasn’t convinced. Over the course of 1976 and 1977 he would be proved correct.
Te P34’s Achilles’ heel was the special tiny tyres needed for the 25cm wheels at the front. Tyre supplier Goodyear was too busy concentrating on their normal tyres to make sure Tyrrell’s had the latest compounds.
Its engine was the same V8 Ford DFV that powered most other cars on the grid.
Originally Tyrrell planned to add a Renault turbo engine to the car, which is why the car originally bore yellow stripes alongside the Tyrrell blue. It would probably have created a fearsome car with enormous power and unpredictable handling – but the deal fell through.
The P34 won no further races and was replaced by a more conventional machine in 1978.
But the concept of six-wheeled racing cars didn’t die with the P34. F1 teams March and even Ferrari dabbled with the concept.
Then in the early 1980s Williams produced a six-wheeled test car with four wheels at the back, rather than the front. This proved a masterstroke and it proved instantly quicker than the regular car.
But when the sport’s governing body got wind of its results, they introduced a maximum limit of four wheels on Grand Prix cars, banning it on the spot,
Had they not, it’s likely that every car on the F1 grid today would have six wheels.




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jep Lotus heeft dat ontwikkeld, is later vernoden omdat het voor te veel grip zorgde, en dat vonden ze on eerlijk tegenover andere rijders.
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Dat is een Chapparall , die 2 ventilatoren aan de achterkant zijn motoraangedreven een die zuigen lucht van onder de wagen , waardoor er een vacuum wordt verkregen.
Daarom heeft die wagen ongelooflijk veel downforce en een schitterende wegligging.
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Geweldig allemaal, wat zou er niet uit kunnen komen als er een echte vrije raceklasse zou zijn met de huidige F1 budgetten!?!?
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Naja, probleem is dan dat ze er straalraketten opzetten en over het circuit gaan vliegen. Sommige regels hebben wel degelijk nut, zie bijvoorbeeld het om de zoveel jaar verminderen van het aantal cilinders in de formule 1. of de turbo's die werdern verboden. Heeft allemaal geleid tot ontwikkelingen die weer positief zijn.
Regels moeten ze gebruiken om de autosport in de juiste richting te sturen, niet om het tegen te houden.
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het hield allemaal op met de beindiging van group B... dat waren pas auto's...
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The thing that amazes me the most is that in 1986 the rally of Portugal had a special stage in the GP circuit of Estoril and he laped the track with a time that would've qualified him 6th for the F1 gran prix of that year. And you need to remember this was the era of turbo F1's and when they go out to qualify they have less fuel and different setup than when they race. A rally car weighs more, less power, less aerodynamic and with 2 people inside. Senna got the pole position that year by the way.


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